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发表于 2007-6-16 09:24 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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我有一款设备,油压千斤顶,问了一些代理,和实验室,他们说如果用在汽车上,那么就属于危险机械,很多机构就不能做.请问是这样的吗?哪里能做这个测试?有些机构给我报价25000一款,请问贵吗?
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发表于 2007-6-16 17:36 | 显示全部楼层
引用第0楼xjhzhero于2007-06-16 09:24发表的 机械指令的问题 :3 o3 e" z8 p/ T8 u- O
我有一款设备,油压千斤顶,问了一些代理,和实验室,他们说如果用在汽车上,那么就属于危险机械,很多机构就不能做.请问是这样的吗?哪里能做这个测试?有些机构给我报价25000一款,请问贵吗?

! f: N  t9 q* i! t/ d看看机械指令的annex IV, 看是否在其范围内
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发表于 2007-6-21 09:26 | 显示全部楼层
不好意思,刚看到楼主的帖.我不是很明白您的意思,您是找哪家做的认证?这款油压千斤顶是打算做出口到哪里的认证,我记得TUV是可以做千斤顶欧洲的认证的.1 B0 U* N/ h1 H9 b

/ b% c7 t8 U& B' o/ Y7 i您可以参考ANSI/ASME PALD-106, JIS D8101,8102.DIN 76024~
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1 x8 o# ~- I- C8 p3 s% X" m8 Y至于价格,还是要取决你是找的哪家机构和做的哪个国家的认证了.这里的2.5W是美圆吗?
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发表于 2007-6-21 09:43 | 显示全部楼层
沒錯, 你的是危險產品, 要做型式認證:
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发表于 2007-6-21 09:46 | 显示全部楼层

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  NB 1804 Institutul National de Cercetare-Dezvoltare pentru Masini si Instalatii destinate Agriculturii si Industriei Alimentare
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  NB 1805 Institutul National de Cercetare-Dezvoltare pentru Protectia Muncii "Alexandru Darabont"& P- `' E8 F6 n3 e; K
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  NB 1871 CENTER FOR TESTING AND EUROPEAN CERTIFICATION Ltd.
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发表于 2007-6-21 09:46 | 显示全部楼层
哇~就算不做危險機械~當ㄧ般機械處理也很划算吧！
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9 g& P9 N/ g# ]' f4 ^0 X在台灣懂得多~報價不見得能拉高  (原因也在這~只報單一指令唉)！
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不過您要注意了~ 這個價位要處理危險機械 恐怕有問題！
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(據了解~光發證單位的費用好像都比25000多喔)    難道測試寫技術文件不用錢嗎？8 e; O9 ^3 H5 ~5 a# c: \' o* t, Z

# j6 A7 M2 x- @建議多問一些單位！
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发表于 2007-6-21 09:48 | 显示全部楼层
COC2.5W差不多!
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发表于 2007-7-12 11:35 | 显示全部楼层
必须要有NB公告号的证书才可以，当然也可以选择一些有能力的实验室帮你做测试写报告，递交到这些NB机构去审核，发证书。费用肯定不会这么低的，光这些NB机构收取的费用就不止这个数了
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发表于 2007-7-16 16:33 | 显示全部楼层
我也觉得2.5W不太可能拿下。
# D: h3 Y- B6 {2 _2 B. Y另外，不知道国内有无哪家实验室能做测试呢（不发证）？
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